DOES THE UN NEED “MOBILITY”?
Interview with Ms. Jan Beagle, Assistant Secretary General for Human Resource Management.
JEAN-MICHEL JAKOBOWICZ

Ms. Jan Beagle, Assistant
Secretary General for
Human Resource Management.
Why does the Organization
need mobility?
In recent years, the mandates given by
Member States to the UN have become very
diverse both in substance and location. In order
to perform these tasks the Organization
needs a more flexible work force, both in
terms of skill sets and in geographical terms.
There are duty stations which face chronic
high vacancy rates and that needs to be managed,
including through mobility. However,
mobility is not a one-way street intended
only to meet the needs of the Organization.
Mobility is also a way to offer more varied
and interesting careers to staff.
Why does the UN need multi-skilled
people?
In fact, the UN needs a mix of expertise. It
needs highly specialized people, but it increasingly
needs people who can work
across disciplines because so many of our
mandates are cross-programmatic. If you
look at the missions in the field, they bring together
people with expertise in areas such as
peace keeping, peace making, humanitarian,
human rights, environment, legal and administration.
To be effective in this context,
we need people who have a broader understanding
of the Organization and the possibility
to work in an integrated way.
Isn’t it a bit contradictory to hire
people with let us say 15 years
experience in a certain specialty and
ask them to move after 5 years to
another specialty?
It is not expected or mandatory that staff
would change occupational groups, but it is
expected that they will not remain in the
same position. You may be a political advisor,
but you can do that job in different departments
or locations. We have already this
policy for staff at the P-2 level who are obliged to move during the first five years of
service. What we see is that these young
people are moving on their own, because
they are eager to discover all the facets of the
UN work.
Certain managers feel that this
system is a waste of resources. They
invest in the training of a junior staff
member and after two years when
they start to be really productive
they leave?
It is true that certain managers have this reaction.
However, it is very important for junior
people who enter the organization to
have a broad view of the work of the UN.
This is a common practice in governments
and in the private sector where people are
given different assignments and opportunities
early in their careers.
To come back to the current exercise,
certain people feel that it is a waste
of resources moving people every
5 years. The first two years staff members
get acquainted with their job and
during the two last years they look for
another job. In other words they will
be really effective during one year!
Do you think that it is good for people to
stay for 10, 15, 20 years doing the same job?
I have met many staff members who think
that even 5 years in a job is too long. What we
are now trying to do is to change people’s
mentality. We try to improve the effectiveness
of the Organization; we try to stimulate people
to think differently. Such change will not
happen overnight, so that is why the policy
which includes post occupancy limits was introduced
in 2002, to have enough time to
prepare. Furthermore, this is not a rigid exercise
– exceptions have been and continue
to be granted for legitimate reasons such as
family or medical reasons, or jobs which are
specialist.
It is not the first time that we speak
of mobility in the UN. In the past there
has already be some attempts. In particular
people were encouraged to go
on mission with the incentive that if
they would go on mission they would
be better placed for a promotion.
And what happened was exactly the
opposite. People went on mission,
their supervisors were upset that they
had left and their colleagues who
remained in town got promoted.
That is exactly what we are trying to correct.
Mobility should be seen as an advantage in
consideration for promotion and not the opposite.
Resistance to change is common in
any large organization, and may come also
from managers. When you have an efficient
staff member you don’t want to lose him or
her. That is very human, but on the other
hand managers have to understand that the
work of the organization is not limited to
one entity, the whole of the UN has to work
properly and it is their duty to participate in
these new undertakings.
People are very anxious about
this whole exercise!
It is true and expected that some people are anxious about these changes, but there are
also others who are quite excited about this
change. The idea is not to have a policy
which is detrimental to the staff. What we are
trying to do is to meet the needs of the organization
but, in doing so, also meet individual
staff members’ needs. The challenge
is to find the balance in addressing differing
interests and needs.
Will there be a different treatment for
General Services and Professionals?
For professionals, it is clear that they are at
the disposal of the Secretary-General. As
General Service staff are recruited locally it is
more difficult for them to move, especially in
smaller duty stations. At the end of the current
exercise, we may well have to develop
a special program for professionals which
would not apply to General Service staff. I
could even envisage that in the future mobility
for General Service staff might be done
on a voluntary basis.
Do you think that many staff members
agree with the mobility programme?
I think that it is too early to decidedly agree
or disagree with this programme. It is a work
in progress and we will assess the results
based on experience in the coming period.
There are many ways to approach the issue
of promoting mobility, including the one we
have in place now, but that does not preclude
us to seek ways to improve it. It is my
hope that mobility will be seen as an opportunity
for learning, development and career
growth.

